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crazy933
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PostSubject: Re: predator questions   16th November 2009, 3:15 pm

cool thanks
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jesse031081
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PostSubject: Re: predator questions   16th November 2009, 3:15 pm

im looking at buying one soon, isnt their preset tunes or is this something ill also have to do
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crazy933
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PostSubject: Re: predator questions   16th November 2009, 3:17 pm

ghost no.. i copied the adjustable paramaters from the predator user manual and put the temps next to the setting to see if what i tryped in is what i should use.
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crazy933
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PostSubject: Re: predator questions   16th November 2009, 3:18 pm

jesse, there are preset tunes, these are quick adjustments in addition to the preset tunes, i'm still trying to tweak what i got.
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ChiTownHemi
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PostSubject: Re: predator questions   16th November 2009, 5:19 pm

Don't forget to make a backup copy of your stock tune. The Predator will automatically back it up for you and store it in the Predator but if something happens to the Predator, you risk losing the copy. Mine came with a USB cable (not sure if I had to pay extra for that - maybe) and there's a program called DSDownloader you use (download that from the Diablo site) to back it up to your pc. I reset mine to stock every time I take the car to the dealer just to be safe.
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crazy933
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PostSubject: Re: predator questions   16th November 2009, 10:19 pm

i haver the pc interface and did not know i could back up the stock tune, cool
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DCSpecial
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Location: Far Northern, IL
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PostSubject: Re: predator questions   17th November 2009, 6:44 am

Yep, open up DS Downloader, plug the predator into the computer/laptop (you need a power adapter if you want to take the Predator in the house to do this....otherwise just use a laptop while it's powered up from the vehicle), Select Get Tune File from Tool and you can save a back-up copy.

Same way you'd load a CMR tune to the predator...except that would be Send Tune File to Tool.
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crazy933
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PostSubject: Re: predator questions   17th November 2009, 8:15 am

the stock tune has been backed up. thanks
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DCSpecial
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PostSubject: Re: predator questions   17th November 2009, 9:28 am

You can also data log with the predator to see how the tune runs in your car.....and either hook it up to a laptop to record directly to the laptop or save it on the predator (9-10mins worth of data can be saved on the pred itself) and then download to your computer.

You can view knock retard, see if the VE tables need to be tweaked, etc..
Or you can use the data log to get a CMR tune made for your vehicle.

You need the Data Viewer software to view it on your laptop/computer, which you can also download for free on Diablo's site.
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crazy933
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PostSubject: Re: predator questions   17th November 2009, 9:31 am

the problem with that is I wouldn't know what I'm looking a but i will give it a try
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eviltrycycle
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PostSubject: Re: predator questions   17th November 2009, 5:28 pm

Good info in this thead. Answered some of my questions I had before I got one. Need to order one soon I guess.

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DCSpecial
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PostSubject: Re: predator questions   17th November 2009, 7:58 pm

Mainly in the data log you'll be looking at ST KR, LT KR, Actual Spark Cyl1, 1/1 LT ADAP, Desired AFR, etc..

With the 93 CAI tune I was getting a lot of KR.....7.5 ST KR and 5.0 LT KR, I only ran it to do a data log to get my CMR made.
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crazy933
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PostSubject: Re: predator questions   17th November 2009, 8:45 pm

dan, i would have no idea what the values of those even mean.
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HiPwr
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PostSubject: Re: predator questions   17th November 2009, 8:52 pm

Thanks for the reminder about backing up my tune. Just downloaded the application from DiabloSport; now let's see if it works on a 64-bit system.

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crazy933
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PostSubject: Re: predator questions   17th November 2009, 9:08 pm

it should. i use a 64bit and dsdownloader worked to backup my stock tune and for the DCX calibration
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DCSpecial
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PostSubject: Re: predator questions   17th November 2009, 9:10 pm

The easiest two to explain and probably what most people look at:
ST KR= Short Term Knock Retard
LT KR = Long Term Knock Retard.


You definitely want the LT to be 0.0, and the ST as low as possible.
When the knock sensors sense knock they pull timing out, resulting in less power. Of course there are other things that will pull timing out as well. The knock sensors are kind of like your safety net for the motor.
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soundsaved
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PostSubject: Re: predator questions   21st May 2010, 4:17 pm

so when you install the 93 CAI perfomance tune, where do you go to adjust the fan settings, or even modify that tune, because i was playing around with it and could not find it. i could tweak the stock tune. lowered the fans and saw a difference in the temp gauge. but then i installed the 93 tune, and could not find it.
please help
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Iguanaman
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PostSubject: Re: predator questions   21st May 2010, 5:33 pm

eviltrycycle wrote:
Good info in this thead. Answered some of my questions I had before I got one. Need to order one soon I guess.


Me too...GB somewhere? Hmmmmmmmmm????????????
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firestartr420
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Location: Niles, Illinois
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PostSubject: Re: predator questions   13th July 2010, 4:32 pm

ok guys.... I just got my Predator from Kurgan (Thanks Bob and Jake!!!) , and while im searching for a cable to update and back up my stuff, i was hoping maybe some of you might help me out here. So, to start, ive got the 3.5L V6 and i havent modded anything yet (stock intake, stock exhaust, stock everything), and Im wondering what if any tune should i load on to the car. I was thinking of loading the 89 CAI tune, just to see how it does, but should I maybe just be loading a modified stock tune? When it comes down to it, should i be changing all the things listed above (Fan speeds, Speedo-Limit, shift firmness) to the same values, or will my values and things be different cuz i've got the V6? Bascially, I guess I'm looking for you guys to advise me like "Change this to this, and that to this", so i don't screw anything up, yet get as much out of it as i can right now. Thank You in advance, since i know you guys are totally the ones to come to for these questions!!!
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inkedup
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PostSubject: Re: predator questions   13th July 2010, 7:02 pm

mines set to whatever 93 cai tune is i was told not to touch it by diablosport.....but i am interest in the shift peramiter can someone chime in....please....and i set my top speed limiter to 190 just to show off.....lol
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