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jesse031081
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PostSubject: tuner   17th November 2009, 6:14 pm

with the predator do you really notice a difference? im on the fence about getting one.... any hp gains and gain in gas mileage, i would just stick with the preloaded tunes cause id hate for something to go wrong.
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liljoejoe54
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PostSubject: Re: tuner   17th November 2009, 6:38 pm

Yes the difference is like night and day. Get it along with a CAI if you dont already have one and also get a 180* thermostat. Do it.....do it.

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PostSubject: Re: tuner   17th November 2009, 6:39 pm

I noticed a big difference. I really notice it when I have to reload stock tune to go back to the stealership.
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PostSubject: Re: tuner   17th November 2009, 6:42 pm

I could tell a difference, but it wasn't something awesome. If you do switch out your t'stat, you definately need it so you can adjust your fans. You can also turn off your MDS and with the R/T Charger (I can't speak for the Challenger), you can adjust shift firmness.

I guess it might be more noticible if I had to go back to the stock tune like Bill said.

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PostSubject: Re: tuner   17th November 2009, 6:51 pm

ok im almost sold is the tstat an easy install and when will you be available to help install it all? Bill!!!!
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AlterEgo
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PostSubject: Re: tuner   17th November 2009, 6:53 pm

The thermostat is super easy to install. Vic did ours.

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PostSubject: Re: tuner   17th November 2009, 6:55 pm

Have you ordered the tuner yet, Jesse? Mine took like three weeks to get delivered. Maybe Maryland Speed will give you a deal on a t'stat and a tuner.

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PostSubject: Re: tuner   17th November 2009, 6:59 pm

i am gonna order it from maryalnd speed and i talked to jen already. thanks for the input. eric did you get yours from them
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PostSubject: Re: tuner   17th November 2009, 7:02 pm

Jesse, I'm sure Vic would help you install your thermostat.

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PostSubject: Re: tuner   17th November 2009, 7:02 pm

he is a pretty cool guy!
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PostSubject: Re: tuner   17th November 2009, 7:07 pm

jesse031081 wrote:
i am gonna order it from maryalnd speed and i talked to jen already. thanks for the input. eric did you get yours from them


No, I didn't.

I know some of this doesn't directly apply to the Challenger, but here is an excellent compilation of how-tos: http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67858

Here's the t'stat specifically (videos):

Part 1
http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/mnunes1/Mods/Thermostat/?action=view&current=ChangingThermostatVideoPowerWagon.flv

Part 2
http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/mnunes1/Mods/Thermostat/?action=view&current=ChangingThermostatVideopt2.flv

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DCSpecial
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PostSubject: Re: tuner   17th November 2009, 7:21 pm

I noticed a difference with the 93 CAI over stock. And now with my CMR it's night and day better than the 93 CAI tune.
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Illinois Chaos
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PostSubject: Re: tuner   17th November 2009, 8:24 pm

DCSpecial wrote:
I noticed a difference with the 93 CAI over stock. And now with my CMR it's night and day better than the 93 CAI tune.


Absafuckinglutely! Get it dyno tuned. You will have amazing gains. About 40rwhp with CMR.
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jesse031081
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PostSubject: Re: tuner   17th November 2009, 8:26 pm

im sure ill get the bug for a cmr some day but baby steps for now
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PostSubject: Re: tuner   17th November 2009, 8:29 pm

jesse031081 wrote:
im sure ill get the bug for a cmr some day but baby steps for now


Call Bob Kurgan. He really gets it right.
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jesse031081
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PostSubject: Re: tuner   17th November 2009, 8:35 pm

maybe a cmr will be a prize for the chili cook off
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crazy933
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PostSubject: Re: tuner   17th November 2009, 8:39 pm

jesse, i got the predator last friday and yes there was a difference. after i reset the TCM and the shift points and firmness last night, then i said "holy shit" to the wife this is awesome.

maryland speed has deals right now due to some change with diablosport and they are trying to move their inventory.

i got the predator, pc interface, jet 180 t-stat and hoses
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chargerchick
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PostSubject: Re: tuner   18th November 2009, 12:36 am

Illinois Chaos wrote:
jesse031081 wrote:
im sure ill get the bug for a cmr some day but baby steps for now


Call Bob Kurgan. He really gets it right.


Is he in Arizona? I think this is the guy I'm going to be going to! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: tuner   18th November 2009, 7:12 am

jesse031081 wrote:
ok im almost sold is the tstat an easy install and when will you be available to help install it all? Bill!!!!

About 10-15 minutes worth of work

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northsiderz
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PostSubject: Re: tuner   29th March 2010, 9:47 am

I just got my predator on Friday. I installed the 93 OCT tune because I'm waiting on some parts still.....and even from stock I notice a difference in accelaration and overall driveability. It was so easy. The Predator literally does everything for you....just push a couple buttons.

I would like to learn a bit more about making manual adjustments though, without doing damage to my ride.
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