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Sublime378
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PostSubject: Superchargers   9th June 2010, 11:40 pm

I'm really really thining about getting a vortec superchager. I planned on getting the slp cat back system with some headers on top of the charger but I don't know I never know what to do
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AlterEgo
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PostSubject: Re: Superchargers   10th June 2010, 8:03 am

I'm sure Tom (Illinois Chaos) can give you a few pointers.

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PostSubject: Re: Superchargers   10th June 2010, 8:12 am

If you still have the 5.7 in there, I'd get a bigger engine before I went blown. Just my opinion.

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cjresto
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PostSubject: Re: Superchargers   10th June 2010, 8:51 am

Vortec is supose to have a very good tune. With forced induction you have to have a great tune on a stock lower end other wise you will run into problems. Forged lower end is the way to go.
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Bob_Kurgan
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PostSubject: Re: Superchargers   13th June 2010, 1:46 pm

give us a call.. we did Toms supercharger and can work with you to hopefully fit your budget..
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Illinois Chaos
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PostSubject: Re: Superchargers   13th June 2010, 2:01 pm

Sublime378 wrote:
I'm really really thining about getting a vortec superchager. I planned on getting the slp cat back system with some headers on top of the charger but I don't know I never know what to do


Hey John, I like that idea. I wish I could have brought my car by, when I picked up the drag radials. I'm in your neck of the woods when I need parts for the bus. so if you want to get a demo, just let me know. Since I know you hit Byron often, you should check Bob's shop out sometime when your over that way.
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Sublime378
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PostSubject: Re: Superchargers   13th June 2010, 7:18 pm

hey Tom hey what do you all got done to your engine. I'm trying to go more show then go I don't want to go crazy sick but I do like the look of the supercharger I just think it would be cool to have the charger on the green hornet but maybe it not the right time
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Sublime378
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PostSubject: Re: Superchargers   13th June 2010, 7:29 pm

allright I got a real dumb question remember I know nothing about egines but I can aint a car truck plane boat what ever you want but can you convert a 5.7 to a 6.1 and if you can who can do that. I thought the only way is to swap out the motor but I'm reading alittle on it and it seems like you can but is it a bogus claim or what
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Hurst Pak
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PostSubject: Re: Superchargers   13th June 2010, 7:38 pm

Bob_Kurgan wrote:
give us a call.. we did Toms supercharger and can work with you to hopefully fit your budget..



Did Toms??

What about Mr. Norm's tongue
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Bob_Kurgan
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PostSubject: Re: Superchargers   13th June 2010, 10:12 pm

Hurst Pak wrote:
Bob_Kurgan wrote:
give us a call.. we did Toms supercharger and can work with you to hopefully fit your budget..



Did Toms??

What about Mr. Norm's tongue


yes, we did Tom's..

we are 1 of 3 vortech TOP TIER installers in the state of IL.. the other 2 are Ford dealerships.
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eviltrycycle
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PostSubject: Re: Superchargers   13th June 2010, 10:43 pm

And I think Tom is happy as a clam with his new addition to his car. Smile

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bogieboy
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PostSubject: Re: Superchargers   13th June 2010, 11:23 pm

eviltrycycle wrote:
And I think Tom is happy as a clam with his new addition to his car. Smile


I think that goes for pretty much anyone with a S/C?
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Illinois Chaos
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PostSubject: Re: Superchargers   14th June 2010, 7:55 am

Yeah, Bob Kurgan did my Vortech install. Sorry for the confusion on the dr's, John. I think I had a SENIOR moment there, wrong John, haha. I have it sorted out now. A Vortech blower under your hood is an addition that is both show and go, if that's what your looking for. Just order the polished one.

"Did Toms??

What about Mr. Norm's"

Paul, It's just business. Both shops are very qualified and it just comes down to a matter of the quote on the work to be done. I would trust either shop to do anything on my car. Lucky to have 2 aces just a few miles apart. It's a bit difficult for me, because I know and think highly of both as friends and professionals.
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Illinois Chaos
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PostSubject: Re: Superchargers   14th June 2010, 8:06 am

Sublime378 wrote:
allright I got a real dumb question remember I know nothing about egines but I can aint a car truck plane boat what ever you want but can you convert a 5.7 to a 6.1 and if you can who can do that. I thought the only way is to swap out the motor but I'm reading alittle on it and it seems like you can but is it a bogus claim or what


Well John, I'm going to differ that question to Bob, if he sees it.




"hey Tom hey what do you all got done to your engine. I'm trying to go more show then go I don't want to go crazy sick but I do like the look of the supercharger I just think it would be cool to have the charger on the green hornet but maybe it not the right time"

I have a stock motor. A Vortech is safe to run in it's current configuration, on a stock motor.
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Sublime378
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PostSubject: Re: Superchargers   14th June 2010, 12:57 pm

Thanks Tom I think I'm going to go with the supercharger I'm in talks with bob as we speak And I think I might try to get some of the vertech podercoded I know we prob can't do the blower itself but the rest I've seen done and it looks pretty good and if I do all that under my hood I think it's going to look pretty sick. Thanks agian to Tom and bob for all my questions
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Illinois Chaos
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PostSubject: Re: Superchargers   14th June 2010, 1:52 pm

Sublime378 wrote:
Thanks Tom I think I'm going to go with the supercharger I'm in talks with bob as we speak And I think I might try to get some of the vertech podercoded I know we prob can't do the blower itself but the rest I've seen done and it looks pretty good and if I do all that under my hood I think it's going to look pretty sick. Thanks agian to Tom and bob for all my questions


That's great, John. Your in good hands.
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Gladius
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PostSubject: Re: Superchargers   15th July 2010, 4:41 pm

Are you set on a Vortech? Have you looked at the twin screw by Kenne Bell or the roots by MagnaCharger?

I was in the same boat, although I quickly decided against the Vortech in favor of a twin screw... my dilemma was going with a blower or a Hellion twin turbo setup. I opted for the Kenne Bell in the end because it looks much better on the motor for shows and cruise nights (the turbos are hidden pretty much) and I prefer the instant kick in the pants boost. I don't want to wait for a turbo to spool up or a centrifugal supercharger to gradually build boost. The twin screw comes on strong at around 2k rpm and produces a super flat torque curve from that point on through the rev range - which is what really gives you that rush of speed out of the gates.

With that being said, the Vortechs produce lots of power and at the strip they win lots of races. They just don't have the same seat of the pants low end burst of power for passing like a twin screw or roots.

Oh, and I opted against the roots S/C in favor of the twin screw so when I build that 426 stroker in the not too distant future I can run 20lbs of boost if I get the urge. Smile

But if you go Vortech, you'll love it too. They have a great product for sure.
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RT!st!C
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PostSubject: Re: Superchargers   15th July 2010, 5:29 pm

Gladius wrote:
Are you set on a Vortech? Have you looked at the twin screw by Kenne Bell or the roots by MagnaCharger?

I was in the same boat, although I quickly decided against the Vortech in favor of a twin screw... my dilemma was going with a blower or a Hellion twin turbo setup. I opted for the Kenne Bell in the end because it looks much better on the motor for shows and cruise nights (the turbos are hidden pretty much) and I prefer the instant kick in the pants boost. I don't want to wait for a turbo to spool up or a centrifugal supercharger to gradually build boost. The twin screw comes on strong at around 2k rpm and produces a super flat torque curve from that point on through the rev range - which is what really gives you that rush of speed out of the gates.

With that being said, the Vortechs produce lots of power and at the strip they win lots of races. They just don't have the same seat of the pants low end burst of power for passing like a twin screw or roots.

Oh, and I opted against the roots S/C in favor of the twin screw so when I build that 426 stroker in the not too distant future I can run 20lbs of boost if I get the urge. Smile

But if you go Vortech, you'll love it too. They have a great product for sure.


so what did that run ya all said and done if u dont mind me asking?
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Gladius
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Location: Valparaiso, IN
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PostSubject: Re: Superchargers   15th July 2010, 5:38 pm

I had Mr. Norms do the install, so with the 2.8LC Kenne Bell (liquid cooled) satin black installed with his WOT box (regulates boost and is adjustable) the whole thing cost me $9,200. I also had a PCV oil recycling system installed with was $139 I think. It keeps me from needing a catch can.

The blower itself was $7299. The install was $1200 of the total cost.
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RT!st!C
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PostSubject: Re: Superchargers   15th July 2010, 5:42 pm

thanks thats not bad for the install......how many horses to the wheels?
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