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DamnSTR8
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PostSubject: Will the stock rear hold?   24th May 2011, 3:05 pm

Im verrrrry close to ordering a the super spartan max cam and i know with a tune from mr morms i can put down somewhere near 460-480 rwhp...i want to know if the stock srt rear will be ok with that for now...until i can save for the wavetrac.....and chally axles...
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Illinois Chaos
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PostSubject: Re: Will the stock rear hold?   24th May 2011, 3:23 pm

It will if you don't run dr's and hook it. The 215 mm half shafts will snap the very first time you hook up.
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PostSubject: Re: Will the stock rear hold?   24th May 2011, 3:45 pm

Keep us posted on this. I'll be doing something similar about this time next year and am very interested to see what you get with this cam. Have you talked it over yet with Tim?
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DamnSTR8
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PostSubject: Re: Will the stock rear hold?   24th May 2011, 4:20 pm

no im just on nitto invos at the moment...and if i did race i wouldnt stall....i just want to get some good horsepower for the summer and enjoy it and then in the fall or next spring upgrade the rear....
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xegitalian19xx
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PostSubject: Re: Will the stock rear hold?   24th May 2011, 4:30 pm

You should be fine broseph...like tom said, just don't hook with DR's and you'll be fine
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PostSubject: Re: Will the stock rear hold?   24th May 2011, 5:35 pm

DamnSTR8 wrote:
Im verrrrry close to ordering a the super spartan max cam and i know with a tune from mr morms i can put down somewhere near 460-480 rwhp...i want to know if the stock srt rear will be ok with that for now...until i can save for the wavetrac.....and chally axles...

Cam only on a srt8 and your gonna get 460-480 to the wheels?
Not calling you a liar, and I hope you get that much, but I doubt it.
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PostSubject: Re: Will the stock rear hold?   24th May 2011, 5:41 pm

Shawn1112 wrote:
DamnSTR8 wrote:
Im verrrrry close to ordering a the super spartan max cam and i know with a tune from mr morms i can put down somewhere near 460-480 rwhp...i want to know if the stock srt rear will be ok with that for now...until i can save for the wavetrac.....and chally axles...

Cam only on a srt8 and your gonna get 460-480 to the wheels?
Not calling you a liar, and I hope you get that much, but I doubt it.


Yeah thats probably at the crank. At the wheels stock is around the 375 mark if I remember correctly so 80-100hp on a cam/tune doesnt seem right.

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PostSubject: Re: Will the stock rear hold?   24th May 2011, 6:10 pm

JensSRT got 446hp/450tq to the rear wheels with a cam only. she used a super spartan max cam.

http://www.chicagolandareamodernmopars.com/t221-jenssrt-gets-dyno-d?highlight=jenssrt

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PostSubject: Re: Will the stock rear hold?   24th May 2011, 7:16 pm

jontoad wrote:
JensSRT got 446hp/450tq to the rear wheels with a cam only. she used a super spartan max cam.

http://www.chicagolandareamodernmopars.com/t221-jenssrt-gets-dyno-d?highlight=jenssrt


That is INSANE!

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DamnSTR8
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PostSubject: Re: Will the stock rear hold?   25th May 2011, 8:13 am

thats my point....and then add a tune you can be close to 460-475.....
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PostSubject: Re: Will the stock rear hold?   25th May 2011, 8:18 am

liljoejoe54 wrote:
Shawn1112 wrote:
DamnSTR8 wrote:
Im verrrrry close to ordering a the super spartan max cam and i know with a tune from mr morms i can put down somewhere near 460-480 rwhp...i want to know if the stock srt rear will be ok with that for now...until i can save for the wavetrac.....and chally axles...

Cam only on a srt8 and your gonna get 460-480 to the wheels?
Not calling you a liar, and I hope you get that much, but I doubt it.


Yeah thats probably at the crank. At the wheels stock is around the 375 mark if I remember correctly so 80-100hp on a cam/tune doesnt seem right.


stock rwhp is 360...crank is 425...with exhaust and a diablo i have 450 crank and 380rwhp now...so add those cam gains to the equation
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xegitalian19xx
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PostSubject: Re: Will the stock rear hold?   25th May 2011, 8:53 am

DamnSTR8 wrote:
thats my point....and then add a tune you can be close to 460-475.....


Nick buddy...Jens' number are with a tune bro...
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DamnSTR8
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PostSubject: Re: Will the stock rear hold?   25th May 2011, 1:22 pm

not a mr norms tune...lol
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xegitalian19xx
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PostSubject: Re: Will the stock rear hold?   25th May 2011, 3:44 pm

True, but still I don't think you'll net much more than that even with Tim's Tune!
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PostSubject: Re: Will the stock rear hold?   25th May 2011, 9:46 pm

xegitalian19xx wrote:
True, but still I don't think you'll net much more than that even with Tim's Tune!


At least Tim can tune. That car sounded like shit. It was breaking up. Who tunes making multiple pulls w/o a cool down? How did he get those numbers with a hot hemi that was pulling timing from heat soak?
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PostSubject: Re: Will the stock rear hold?   26th May 2011, 10:39 am

Those #s seem very high for Just a Camed car. But than again every Dyno is different, my base line from Tim was 35hp lower than my previous Dyno, no changes to the motor just different dyno on a different day. Not sure if Tims new Dyno is as stingy as his old one but dont be surprised if you only pull down around 420-430 with just a cam.
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PostSubject: Re: Will the stock rear hold?   26th May 2011, 12:13 pm

cjresto wrote:
Those #s seem very high for Just a Camed car. But than again every Dyno is different, my base line from Tim was 35hp lower than my previous Dyno, no changes to the motor just different dyno on a different day. Not sure if Tims new Dyno is as stingy as his old one but dont be surprised if you only pull down around 420-430 with just a cam.


Damn straight! HP numbers don't mean shit. Too many variables. It's the numbers in the tune put into the laptop that make the difference. That's where Tim shines and Bob Kurgan tunes the same way as Tim does. It isn't having a dyno tune that's so important as it is who is doing the tuning. Having a shop and a dyno and the CMR software doesn't make you a tuner, just as me standing in my empty garage doesn't make me a car!
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DamnSTR8
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PostSubject: Re: Will the stock rear hold?   26th May 2011, 3:53 pm

lol well i guess the only way to find out is buy it and dyno it...
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xegitalian19xx
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PostSubject: Re: Will the stock rear hold?   26th May 2011, 4:21 pm

yeah so quit talking and do it Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Will the stock rear hold?   12th July 2011, 1:32 pm

yeah i've been seeing crazy cam only numbers. Speed inc did one in a vette + e-85 and picked up 85whp thats 465 @ the wheels!!!!! there was so much controversy they posted videos of the before and after dyno runs.

Seen a few crazy SRT's cams are imho the Real brain of any engine

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